Who is the biggest natural bodybuilder? (Why are they small bitches?)

[droppingplates]

I'm natural and have decent size, I think. I've only been training seriously for 'bout 5 years now and started late at 32 and am now 36 going on 37.

If I had started at 16 or 17, I'd be pretty huge by now and I've never done AAS or PH's, either.

It was a stupid fucking statement to begin with. Size can be attained naturally, just takes alot longer, though. Now, to get to be Jay's or Evan's size naturally, you need gear, but you can get pretty fucking big without it. I get asked if I ever juice pretty regularly and I ain't even that big. It depends alot on genetics. I got buddies who lift hard and lift often and even use PH's and they still can't beat me for size or strength.

[Geminon]

ignorant opinionated statement. please do not start the personal internet gangsta attacks. i am commenting on your statement not your persons and my comment will not make the world implode upon itself.

I agree with paradox. sorry bro

[str8flexed]

you guys didn't know... every natural bodybuilder who looks decent at all cheats.

trust me, these guys know... they've all competed many times.

wait a sec...


These threads always entertain me. People who KNOW that all these natural bodybuilders juice but they've never done a natural show, been to one, or even really know anything about them. I'm not saying their aren't cheaters. But it is far less rampant than certain individuals would have you believe.

Then again I either look like shit, or I'm lying, according to them it's one of the two; or perhaps a combination. Bottom line is these people have already made their minds up and have closed them off for whatever reason.

[Swede]

Gustavo claimed to be 100% natural

so maby Gustavo

[Wiry Pyruvity]

why should he have to show pics? one can opin without resembling what they argue for...or against...

[str8flexed]

why should he have to show pics? one can opin without resembling what they argue for...or against...

certainly; it is more in the disrespectful fashion that it was presented that has people miffed.

Personally, I've dealth with all this long enough it doesn't really bother me personally. What irks me more than anything is the know-it-alls that really don't know a damn thing about natural bodybuilding but act like an authority on who is using and who isn't.

[Wiry Pyruvity]

yeah...i don't get it...Natural bodybuilding to me seems the much harder of options...growth isn't immediately visible...the rewards are fewer...the level of discipline and focus has to be higher...

[mayor of bodybuilding]

Str8flexed You have my RESPECT as an athlete and natural bodybuilder.Im 43 and would love to see how some of these Experts will look when they have a family and bills! I hope to meet you at the Arnold! What booth will you be at?

[str8flexed]

yeah...i don't get it...Natural bodybuilding to me seems the much harder of options...growth isn't immediately visible...the rewards are fewer...the level of discipline and focus has to be higher...

Well I think when some people see someone that looks better than they do they automatically claim that person is juicing or lying about juicing because it makes them feel better about themselves. I'm not saying that's always the case; but it holds true quite often. I'll be the first to admit when I was young and insecure in myself I looked at some of the top guys and said "oh yea he's juicing" but it wasn't because I knew for sure or anything like that; it was because they made me feel insecure about the fact that they looked better than I did and I wanted some way to validate myself. Fortunately, I've long since grown out of that nonsense.

Interestingly, a lot of the flack i've gotten over the years has been because I competed in natural bodybuilding. Guys in untested shows think they get all the flack, and they do get quite a bit, but I've had quite a bit myself from people hating on me for being involved in natural bodybuilding.

Bottom line, people will find a reason to hate on ANYONE who has success. You could have the perfect physique, have never touched juice or PHs, and you could be the nicest guy in the world, and there will be people who will hate on you. Just the way humans work unfortunately

[ChromeHearts]

usually a good rule of thumb is, if someone looks better than you, they are juicing, but if they look worse than you, they are natural.


This has been shown to be 99.99% accurate by most standards today.

[str8flexed]

usually a good rule of thumb is, if someone looks better than you, they are juicing, but if they look worse than you, they are natural.


This has been shown to be 99.99% accurate by most standards today.

EXACTLY! this is the gold standard used by most LMAO!

[Ron Harris]

"Small bitches." Wow. What a respectful way to put it.

IDIOT. Did you crawl over here from some nest of trolls?
There is one particular web site full of negative haters where every other thread starts with a rude, insulting statement about a person or a group of people, and then adds, "Discuss."

MD will not turn into a site like that.

If that's what you came here for, please FUCK OFF.

[mayor of bodybuilding]

Hey Ron what site is that? There are alot of jerkoffs on the net who hate BB so why are they on bodybuildilding sites?

[str8flexed]

"Small bitches." Wow. What a respectful way to put it.

IDIOT. Did you crawl over here from some nest of trolls?
There is one particular web site full of negative haters where every other thread starts with a rude, insulting statement about a person or a group of people, and then adds, "Discuss."

MD will not turn into a site like that.

If that's what you came here for, please FUCK OFF.

How does one know that they are indeed a jackass?

Answer: when you manage to piss off Ron, the nicest guy here LOL

[Ron Harris]

I won't say, because then a thread starts over there about how they are getting under my skin or something.

But that's a good question - if you are jealous of bb's, hate bb's, and do nothing but make fun of and insult bb's, why would you spend a lot of time posting on a bb site?